Again, I can not type as fast as these guys can talk so much of this will be paraphrased and I'll clean it up later.
Over the first two debates Green was in my opinion the winner by pointing out what he would do and how Doyle would blame others for his administrations failures.
Neither candidate has done well on style points, what I want to see tonight is passion and energy and for the candidates to tell us about themselves, not their opponents. In addition if they could stick to responsibility and away from blame that would be just spiffy.
I was talking with a rather well placed operative this afternoon who put it well. It seemed both of them were trying not to lose.
One more point, these debate are supposed to be the big opportunity for the undecided to compare. I am more convinced than ever before that primarily extreme poliwonks are the only ones who watch these things.
Now on with the show.... (in 15 minutes).
The questions will come from the audience again and are supposed to be on quality of life issues from the crowd.
1st question. What will you do as Guv to reduce the cost of health care?
Green. Health care costs in Wisconsin are rising faster than the national avg. My plan at votemarkgreen.com is laid out, tax credits for businesses, wellness programs and I am offering a tax credit for long term care insurance.
Doyle. Right out of the gate pot shot on congress & the president. Now touting his illegal program to encourage people to buy Canadian drugs. I want all health bucks to be tax deductible. Get all kids insured, and create a big pool of buying power.
Open debate on the issue. Green, Doyle is pointing fingers at everyone else, he is the leader and the number of uninsured in the state are going up under his leadership and SE Wisc has the highest health care costs in the country. Talking about how HSA's have helped small business.
Doyle, it is really amazing for a member of congress.... Trying to tie all of congress to Green again. HSA's are fine, they take care of 1% of the population.
2nd Question. Everyone says that education is important until it is time to fund it.
Doyle. Everyone who knows me knows education is my #1 priority. I have had to stand up to fund education when Republicans sent the last budget it had a $400 million cut (
LIE)... Doyle is lying about education cuts in the last budget again, I do hope Green nails him on this. I have stood against powerful forces.
Green, He is pointing fingers at everyone else again. The truth of the matter is since I have been in office education spending is up 150%, that is not a cut. I want to see .70 cents towards building and kids. I want merit pay, I want good teachers paid more.
Follow-up, DOYLE. 2/3 funding I struggled mightily, the legislature rejected my proposal to help
Green. Slowing down growth is not a cut (
THANK YOU, FINALLY!) Doyle broke his promise on school funding formulas.
3rd Question. The Dept of Corrections has a huge budget, crime rate on the rise, is it a problem.
Green. We need to spend whatever it takes to keep our population safe. We need to spend enough money to keep the people who work at corrections safe. With regards to penalties etc, I am a biog believer in tough on crime penalties.
Doyle. I want to talk about education again, the biggest problem I had was the lowest spending school districts were spending 7,000 per kid, now that number is up to 8,600. I believe that our first priority is to keep our people safe. But we have made some big changes in drug rehab and work programs. We need to continue to get better at this. We have worked hard.
Follow Up. Do you see this as a problem. We have a lot of people incarcerated, people seem to keep going back something does not seem right to me.
Green. Is rising crime a problem? Absolutely. I have worked on this. Where we disagree, I will not appoint people on the parole board or release sexual predators without notifying the public. the most violent must stay in prison.
Doyle. Prevention is vital. I have fought to hold up the sex predator law. Wisconsin is the only state that has received an a grade on our controls on sexual predators. I hope this question is about what we do with kids.
4th Question. What is your plan to strengthen ethics over partisanship.
Doyle. I hold myself to highest standards of ethics, as well as those around me. (HAHAHAHAHAHA) The Republican leadership killed the ethics bill...
Sorry phone rang.Green. Lets remember how we got to where we are right now. 4 yrs ago when Governor Doyle was running for guv he argues forcefully against gaming expansion. One election and millions fo dollars later we have huge expansions. I do not believe any governor should solicit money from the very people that they regulate.
HUGE GREEN VICTORY.
Doyle. We have just heard some far out accusations again that are not true. Green has got special interest money from DC from people not registered in Wisconsin. There should not be a loophole to allow Green to use money that no one else can take.
Green. It was not a loophole when Tom Barret did it. Doyle and his election board changed the rules and applied them retroactively. What I told about Doyle was absolutely true, he suddenly did a 180.
ANOTHER HUGE VICTORY.
Next question. What would you do to improve access to health care in Wisconsin.
Green. You have pointed to one of the serious problems in our state. Under Doyle's watch the number of uninsureds has gone up. One way to increase care is to increase consumer based care. HSA's are not more prevalent because people like Doyle are blocking HSA's becoming tax deductible.
Doyle. We have seen a huge cut from Congress to Medicaid. We have lost several million dollars due to Congress we are one of the few states that has not cut benefits or access. We can now expand coverage and allow families to purchase badger care, and will continue to work on long term care.
6th Question. Recent studies have shown in the the area of the achievement gap, what will you do to relieve racial disparities.
Doyle. I'm a basic guy about education. It is about getting kids off to a a good early start. we have expanded 4 yr old kindergarten to 65% of the districts. We need small class sizes, the racial gaps are less because we have focused on small class sizes. Getting kids a good breakfast, we need to feed kids. (
what did any of that have to do with race?)Green. The achievement gap is nothing short of an outrage. The current programs are writing off a generation of young people. We all have to be on these kids side. I am a huge supporter of choice schools, I would get rid of the cap, I support an expansion of charter schools, and we need more money in the classes (
wrong)
Follow-up, how do you close the gap at the secondary level.
Doyle. The Wisconsin covenant, at the end of eighth grade we will ask kids to sign a promise that if the kids do well and make their promises, they will be able to go to college at the UW system.
Green. We have had a Wisconsin covenant for year. If you play by the rules you get a crack at WI schools. Under Doyle tuition is up 50% in 4 years. Doyle has given breaks to illegal immigrants...
Question. Wisconsin need for energy continues to grow. Do you support lifting the moratorium on nuclear energy?
Green. Energy is hurting families in a very real way. We need to follow the leads of Wis companies for alternative. I think nuclear energy should be on the table. The moratorium should be lifted. A few years ago were among the lowest in the nation, now we are among the highest in the Midwest.
Doyle. You know who made all that money, the ones who Green gave tax breaks to. (the ? Was about nuclear energy) Renewable, renewables, renewables. He is not answering the question about nuclear power. (I guess Guv Doyle does not want to tell us his position on nuclear energy, that would be a NO folks.)
Question. What would you do to enhance the quality of our health care.
Doyle. We are building an electronic medical records system, we have the capacity to do it. We have large providers and we can put together a system that reduces medical errors. ( I didn't know about this, sounds cool). We want metrics (for Doctors, not teachers apparently)
Green. We agree on a great deal here, we need more transparency. We need to give people the tools to succeed in this effort. When we have high liability costs that hurts the likelihood of professionals sharing.
Question. What is your position regarding tort law reform and how your position would impact consumers.
Green. I feel strongly about this. Doyle has opposed just about every liability reform that crossed his desk. Liability reform is a disaster and needs to be addressed. When liability costs rises, you pay. Go ask a Physician, they pass the problems on to you providing increased medical costs.
Doyle. A big difference between being a Governor and a Congressman. I signed liability reform. We worked in a reasonable way.
(my fingers hurt)
Closing Statements...
Doyle. Thanks... I am priveledged to be Governor if this great state, yes DC has failed us but we have looked out for Wisconsin citizens. I support embryonic stem cell research. I am so proud that we started this research (that has done nothing yet). Attacking Green on this now....
Green. Gov Doyle is wrong, I support it. In the next couple of weeks you will be shaping this states future. You have to ask yourself are you satisfied with the current path. That taxes are taking more out of your pocket, Uw tuition up, health care rising faster here than nationally. If you are satisfied then Doyle is your guy. If we can do better, I am your guy. We do not have a people problem we have a leadership problem. I'm asking for your help, I'm asking for your vote, let's make Wisconsin great again.
Thank you, good night.
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