I must be a sick puppy, a cool windy Monday night, with plenty of football to be watched, and what did I choose to do?
Go to a political debate featuring not only Bill McReynolds and John Lehman going at it, but with a bonus under-card of Robin Vos and Tim Daley.
As I sit preparing to be wowed by the candidates a couple of thoughts come to mind. Will John Lehman or Tim Daley punch me in the nose if they figure out who I am? Additionally, I wonder if Daley flunkie or puppeteer Kurt Vlach will show up?
Daley just walked in, no Vlach, well that answers that, Maroon tie, blue shirt, nice jacket he looks good.
This evenings debate is being hosted by the Racine Dominican Sisters, they have umpteen hundred acres overlooking lake Michigan. These are some rich Nuns!
In walks Mac, nice Green and blue tie, I so tire of the red ones.
At this point, I would like to tell you I lost about 10 minutes of reporting as my Word processor shut down without warning. This will make it impossible for me to cover opening remarks, I’ll pick it up when the questioning starts. This is going to be a to be rough on us as this is a group of well known leftie sisters.
Shame on rightie, I think I am the only one here who is not affiliated with the Sienna center who would be considered a conservative. The Demosphere is well represented by Democrat of the year Kay Collins Shultz and Racine dems webmaster Sandra Tingle. As well as a few other people I do not recognize. It was nice to meet Kay and Sandy as they have been commenter at RDW. Total attendance, around 150.
John Lehman is attacking his opponent in his opening instead of telling us about himself. Now Lehman is attacking Vos claiming he will debate him instead of Daley.
Question… (given them ahead of time)
Do you favor legislation like Tabor that would not hinder other programs. (just focus on your thinking instead of your opponents…
McReynolds. Yes I support reasonable restraint on government spending. Any of the versions floated in Madison, never froze actual spending, they allowed government to grow, this is not talked about. I support and I have lived within the levy proposals as County executive. We are compassionate, we take care of our needs, but it is important to let people keep more of their paychecks and try and control gov’t spending.
Lehman. I appreciate the question, I am not in favor of TABOR or TPA or whatever you call it. The Republicans had their chance and blew it. Having been in Madison for a decade I’ve heard Republicans saying they are for local control, Tabor takes control takes away control from local govt… (to my knowledge local people can put up referenda). When you take extreme revenue limits it is unreasonable.
Vos. I am in favor of the TPA, I was one of the authors of the most stringent bill. I voted for the amendment that would put those ties on the state but not on the locales. I surveyed my district, 75% of them were in favor of some protection. I want to make sure the tax payer keeps their money.
Daley. There is no magic amendment to solve the revenue problem. Attack Vos on his survey as it sounds good in theory, but in practice it does not work. Most of the cost of govt is sucked up by wages and benefits. My health insurance has gone up 37% in the last 2 years. What we need is health care reform, not tabor. Tabor is a gimmick.
Translated: I’m not interested in that question…
Question. What is your stance on education funding and choice in Milwaukee?
Lehman. I am on a committee studying school funding. It is a perennial problem. How do you get your best education value, by supporting public schools. I have been a leader in not supporting school choice because it is two systems…
McReynolds. We all want good public schools. Public ed needs to learn how to prioritize spending. I support school choice, I support vouchers, it is not a threat.
Vos. I will author a bill that will be bring school choice to Racine county. School Choice works, we need great public schools and we need to support choice.
Daley. I am opposed to expanding school vouchers. There is no study that shows school choice works… (really now). They do nothing but undermine public education.
Questions. Does high quality of ethics work from life to death, teachers with guns, as long as
death penalty.
Daley. I do not know any teachers that want to pack iron, that is a crazy idea. I can not believe how ludicrous that is. I oppose bringing the death penalty back to Wisconsin, capital punishment is not a deterrent, it is expensive. What will you do cut education to bring back the death penalty.
Vos. I am proud to be endorsed by Wisconsin Right to Life. I am concerned about unborn children who my opponent does not worry about, I understand the point that every child deserves to live. Respecting life should be the single most important thing that elected officials should do.
Lehman. All of us who will go to the polls and have to consider a case where there is DNA evidence and should we support the death penalty, I do not support that, there are too many chances for human error. Part of the reason I am proud of living in Wisconsin is that we do not have the death penalty.
McReynolds. This is simple for me. I would support the death penalty if there was DNA evidence. I am totally against arming teachers in schools. (I like a politician who can anser a question in a direct and short manner)
Question… Do you support a pharmacists right to not fill prescriptions they have objections to?
Daley. No, pharmacists should not be able to have a conscious.
Vos. I voted for a bill that says a pharmacist has the right to hand a prescription back that says I’m sorry this is against my conscience would you please fill this somewhere else.
Lehman. The argument that pharmacists conscience should be considered should be considered very seriously. These people take an oath to care for the patient.
McReynolds. I do believe that a pharmacist should have a conscious clause, but they would need to pass a referral and give the Rx back to the patient.
Question. How would you solve the problem of inadequate funding at UW?
RDW ( How about by limiting 1,100 a month auto leases)
McReynolds. They need to prioritize their spending. We need to address the disparity between out of state and in-state students. They have over-spent and they need to treat their budget more like a business. They need to address over-spending to get some credibility back.
Lehman. WHAT ABOUT THE POOR?!? It is my belief that no student should have the door slammed in their face for not having the money to go there. We need to keep financial aid strong, so all kids who want to come can come.
Vos. There is strong bi-partisan support to libraries. I was a member of the board of regents in the 90’s. We have made a series of bad decisions. Under Guv Doyle 51% increase in tuition. They are more interested in social agenda than education. I am hopeful that we have a new Guv and every child that want to can go to a state school.
Daley. The treasurer of my campaign, my son Michael is a graduate. (You had to mention your treasurer didn’t you) We are 2nd lowest in the big 10 in tuition (well that makes that 51% increase better.) I have no idea what he is talking about.
Question. Where are you at on the ban on civil unions, gay marriage.
Daley. We already have a ban on gay marriage. I’ve been married 25 years, I have performed 557 marriages over my career, this is a gimmick to get people to the polls, DEATH PENALTY, GAY MARRIAGE (big scary voice), I will vote no, constitutions are supposed to give people rights, not take them away.
Vos. 78% of the people in my district said the people of Wisconsin through their elected legislators, not any judges.
Lehman. If you had served in the legislature you would have noticed the timing. This is a vote for discrimination, this is a gimmick, this is designed to bring a certain kind of voter to the polls.
EDITORIAL - I AM SICK OF THIS, IT SHOLD FUEL VOTERS ON THE LEFT AS WELL.
Mac - I believe marriage is between one man and one woman. (short)
Question. Many disabled people have no other income than a small disability income, what would you do to help there people.
Lehman. Coming from the Democratic side we are sensitive to poor people. (What rightie hates ‘em?) You are looking for a democrat if you want this kind of help. (he said nothing)
McReynolds. Eliminate taxes on social security./ We will be announcing a program tomorrow night to help seniors, a pilot program through the county that will break new ground as part of the budget message.
Vos. We can all say what we would do, I was an author of a bill that would provide tax incentives to encourage businesses to hire persons who have developmental disabilities.
Daley. I live a short distance from Sheppard’s in Union Grove. I have fought for these people. I have sued people.
Thank you Robin Vos for actually answering the question.
Closing Statements….
Daley. Thanks again, I respect life, I was raised Catholic but I married a Lutheran. Pope John Paul II I respected so much, he is the only one who got that made any sense. We all want affordable health care, wages, schools, clean and safe environment for our selves and our families, my progressive agenda will accomplish that, not the gimmicks.
Vos. Elections are about choices. Two years come and go quickly. Elections are about people and are they what you think the same as what you think and will they reflect your values. People who listen are important. Over two years about 3,000 people contacted my office. The vast majority of them heard them from me. We don’t dig through telephone records, looking for dirt, we are about ideas.
Lehman. The major issues we hear are about taxes, jobs, health care, etc,. Hopefully you see my experience and love for local government and my respect for people who are trying to do the job of government. I am trying to be reasonable instead of answering political answers.
McReynolds. It is clear that John and I have differences. (yes you do Bill)
This was decidedly leftist crowd, the winner of this fatal four way was Tim Daley. I give this to him on style. He kept the crowd the most engaged.
I have to give Vos the passion points. Robin is fired up and a true believer.
Lehman looks tired, and McReynolds looks slightly less tired. I do admire the way Mac gets right to the point instead of pontificating just because he has the floor.
Now who's winning Monday Night Football?!?